"Yes, it has been broken for me," could not answer the end A designed by the celebration of the Lord's Supper, or words to that effect. Interrogated by Mr. Proudfoot, Whether Mr. Campbell stated, that repentance toward God and other duties were binding on true believers alone? Depones, that Mr. Campbell taught, that they were binding upon all; but B that only those who were true believers could perform them from a right motive.

Interrogated by Mr. Story, Whether deponent understood Mr. Campbell to teach that without repentance these duties could not be performed? Depones, that he understood C Mr. Campbell to teach so: Depones, that Mr. Campbell meant by repentance a change of mind, and when alluding to religious subjects, a change from Satan unto God: Depones, that Mr. Campbell taught that so long as the mind is not changed or regenerated, it can have no holy feeling: Depones, D that Mr. Campbell taught that until the gospel be believed, the mind is thoroughly alienated from God: Depones, that Mr. Campbell taught that so long as the rebellious mind is utterly ignorant of the love of God, no saving change can be effected upon it: Depones, that Mr. Campbell taught that E the knowledge of the love of God does not do away with any obligations of the law to holy obedience: Depones, that Mr. Campbell taught that the knowledge of this holy love of God leads to all holy obedience, by their seeing the love of God to them, and consequently drawing out their love and F constraining them to keep his commandments.

Interrogated by Mr. Carr. As the witness has said that Mr. Campbell taught that the sins of all men are forgiven, what it is that he exhorts them to repent of? Depones, and answers, of their wickedness: Depones, that by wickedness G he means their state of rebellion and alienation from God.

Interrogated by Dr. Fleming. As the witness has said that Mr. Campbell taught that the sins of all men are forgiven, and that he taught also that men will be judged for their

A evil deeds-what are the evil deeds they are to be judged for? Depones, seeing that God has loved him, and that his sins are forgiven, that nevertheless if he do not believe, or take advantage of these privileges, at last he shall be found in a state of alienation from God, and that he will be judged B then according to his character, in as far as these privileges have or have not led him to holiness or to God: Depones, that the witness has heard Mr. Campbell say that it was not the mere pardon, but the love of him who had pardoned-and that a person might believe that pardon abstractly considered, C and might run to it for safety from a selfish motive: Depones,

that when witness said that Mr. Campbell taught that men would be judged for their evil deeds, it was in the first place for their not seeing or not believing in this love, manifested to each individual in the world, and consequently that every D other sin followed.

Re-interrogated for the defender. Depones, that when he stated that he did not recollect to have heard Mr. Campbell pray for the pardon or forgiveness of sins in the usual way, he meant that Mr. Campbell did not couch that prayer in the usual E words: Depones, that he understood Mr. Campbell, on an occasion previously referred to, to state in reference to the possi bility of believing in pardon from selfish motives, that a belief in the pardon of our sins, not accompanied with the discernment, or knowledge of God's character in so pardoning them, F was not true faith: Depones, that from the reasoning employed by Mr. Campbell at the time, this appeared what Mr. Campbell intended to prove: Depones, that Mr. Campbell has also stated that one who believes in the pardon of his sins without loving God and becoming like God, was not G a true believer, or did not believe the right gospel: Depones, that when Mr. Campbell said that men would be judged for their characters, deponent understood him to refer to their conduct, or to the works which constituted their character: Depones, that he has heard Mr. Campbell pray for the for

giveness of sins in this sort of way-forgive our want of A love to thee, and pardon our giving thee so little glory, &c. Interrogated what he means by &c.? Depones, that he means our want of joy in thee, and expressions of a similar import: Depones, that on these occasions the deponent understood Mr. Campbell to be praying for forgiveness of the B sins of believers: Depones, that he has heard Mr. Campbell pray for the forgiveness of the sins of unbelievers in this way -"For their not seeing the redemption that is in Christ for them" Depones, that he does not recollect of Mr. Campbell praying for the forgiveness of any other sin in unbelievers, C except the sin of not seeing or of rejecting the redemption that is in Christ: Depones, that he has heard Mr. Campbell state, that, in this day of grace, all sin arose from not believing in Christ, and that the reason why they continued in sin was that they did not believe in Christ. All which is truth as the D deponent shall answer to God.

REV. DR. ROBERT BURNS, one of the Ministers of Paisley, aged forty-three, and married, being solemnly sworn, exam- E ined, and purged of malice and partial counsel: Depones, that he has been a minister of the Church of Scotland for twenty years: Depones, that he knows the defender. Interrogated whether he heard the defender preach at Helensburgh in September 1829; to which it was objected by F the defender, as it was previously objected to Mr. Brewster, that this did not fall within any of the ten instances mentioned in the libel. And the objection being repelled, the defender protested for leave to appeal to the Synod of Glasgow and Ayr, took instruments and craved extracts. And the ques- G tion being put: Depones, that he heard the defender preach on the 29th September, 1829, in the school-house at Helensburgh: Depones, that the text was in the eighth chapter of Jeremiah and twenty-second verse, Is there no balm in Gilead?

A Is there no physician there? Why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered? Depones, that there was very much in the sermon which struck the deponent as erroneous in point of doctrine. Interrogated whether, in that sermon, Mr. Campbell stated any thing which struck the B deponent as erroneous in regard to the matters of atonement, and pardon, and of assurance as being of the essence of faith and necessary to salvation?

Objected, that Dr. Burns, in deponing as to a sermon preached on the 29th of September, 1829, has deponed to a C sermon not contained in any one of the ten charges of the libel, that his evidence must, therefore, be held to refer solely to the specific expressions in the previous part of the minor,—and that, while in the ten charges the libellers had left themselves the liberty of proving words having a similar D import, they have left themselves no such liberty in that previous portion of the minor, even supposing it competent to prove that portion at all, under the judgments of the Presbytery, regarding the relevancy. To which it was answered for the libellers, that where a minister is charged with holdEing and promulgating erroneous doctrines, it is in no case necessary to prove the precise words used by him. It is enough to prove the substance.

And the question being put, depones, that he is not aware that there was any thing in the sermon directly upon the F subject of assurance: Depones, that the general bearing of the discourse was in favour of the doctrine of universal pardon : Depones, that the deponent has the more distinct recollection of this sermon, as he had two conversations with Mr. Campbell on the subject in the following week, or within ten days G thereafter: Depones, that the first part of the discourse had for its object to describe man's state by nature, as requiring a physician, and the second to shew that there is balm in Gilead, and a physician there: That the objection which deponent then felt to the first part of the discourse was, that,

in describing man's state by nature, there was no reference to A man's condition as a guilty creature in the sight of God; but the whole design of the statement was to describe his moral alienation from God, or his hostility to the holy character of God: Depones, that in that part of the discourse which described the remedy, Mr. Campbell represented God's B reconciliation of man to himself as a past act, and as a thing with which man now has nothing to do. That God loves all; and that the only way in which the balm in Gilead and the physician there can be of avail to any human being, is the simple belief that God was reconciled to all when Christ C died, and that he is not now imputing sin to any. That he said in words nearly to the following effect, That it is common for the preachers of the gospel, in this country, to say, that the reason why men do not benefit by the balm in Gilead, and by the physician there, is that they are not sensible of D their disease, and that they will not come to Christ for a cure. That this is not the fact that the true reason is that they will not believe that God is a reconciled God to them-and that, as such, he is not imputing transgression to them: That all men have equally an interest in Christ, if they would truly E allow themselves to think so; and that the reason why men do not enjoy peace with God is that they will not rely on his word when he says that he loves them. That in no part of the discourse did he call sinners to repentance, or to faith, except in the sense above referred to: And that towards the F conclusion he used the following words, which are his very words: "Seriousness, my friends, so far from being a symptom of returning soundness, is rather a modification of the disease." Depones, that Mr. Campbell also said, that mourn ing for sin, or having a sense of guilt upon the conscience, G had nothing to do with the state of a believer's mind at the time of his receiving the gospel: Depones, that the defender also said that the only reason why men should be sorrowful was that they did not believe God when he said that he

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