A loved them, and was reconciled to them: And the deponent understood him to say this in opposition to the causes usually assigned by Evangelical preachers in this country, viz. grief on account of sin: Depones, that on that occasion the de ponent understood Mr. Campbell to state, that by the death B of Christ all mankind were put into a state of pardon; and he stated this so fully that no one present could misunderstand him: Depones, that the defender stated the belief of this fact, viz. that all mankind were put into a state of pardon, was all that was necessary to constitute the faith of the C gospel Depones that Mr. Campbell stated that the reason why professors did not enjoy peace and joy in believing, was that they did not give credit to the fact that God was not imputing sin to men, and that he loved them in particular: Depones, that he understood him to say that the refusal to D believe this fact was the unbelief condemned in Scripture, and that this was the only sin for which men, under the dispensation of grace, shall be condemned: Depones, in explanation of the date assigned to this sermon, that when he was precognosced, he was under the impression that the sermon E had been preached in the beginning of October, but that in looking into some private memoranda on the subject, he finds that it was the 29th of September.

Interrogated for the defender.-Depones, that by seriousness he understood Mr. Campbell to mean deep sense of sin F and anxiety about salvation, as he was speaking at the time of Evangelical preachers in this country exhorting their people to be serious: Depones, that in speaking of the sense of sin, Mr. Campbell meant merely not believing that God loves us : Depones, that the occasion above spoken to was the last G occasion on which deponent heard Mr. Campbell preach: That he only heard him twice before-first in Greenock in 1825, and second at Port-Glasgow in May, 1827. Inter. rogated by Dr. Hamilton: Depones, that in Mr. Campbell's first prayer, on the above occasion, it struck the deponent

that the only sin confessed was the sin of not believing that A God loved us, and there was, of course, no prayer for pardon of sin, but merely for the sense of pardon, or the persuasion that God was not imputing sin to us: And the deponent adds, that in the second prayer the apparent deficiency did not seem to be made up. Interrogated by Mr. Story, whe- B ther the deponent understood Mr. Campbell to mean by seriousness, all those feelings of solicitude and anxiety that precede believing the gospel: Depones, that he understood Mr. Campbell to mean all that solicitude and anxiety of mind, which a man feels under the powerful preaching of the C gospel, when he is led to inquire, What shall I do to be saved? Again interrogated by Mr. Story: Since the Scriptures declare that this is the commandment of God, that we believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, did the deponent understand Mr. Campbell to teach that all these feelings, D described under the general name of seriousness, preceding obedience to that commandment were sinful? Depones, that he understood Mr. Campbell to teach that all these feelings described under the general name of seriousness have nothing to do with faith, in the sense in which he, the deponent, under- E stood that term: Depones, that the deponent did not understand Mr. Campbell to teach that the sense of sin, or an anxiety to obtain an interest in Christ, had any thing to do with faith, which he, Mr. Campbell, seemed to consider as a mere intellectual act, or persuasion of the mind, that God is reconciled to F us. Interrogated whether deponent understood Mr. Campbell to teach that the gospel, which he was pressing upon the acceptance of his hearers, could be possibly believed without any sense of sin? Depones, that the object of Mr. Campbell's discourse did not appear to be to press the acceptance of the G gospel upon his hearers at all, but simply to insist that they shall believe that God is not imputing sin to them; and that their not believing this was the only sin a sense of which seemed to be considered by him as connected with faith:

A Depones, that Mr. Campbell represented the natural state of man as a state of moral alienation from God, meaning thereby, as he explained it, a dislike to the character of God as a holy and gracious Being. Interrogated what Mr. Campbell stated as the most likely means of overcoming this dislike? DeB pones, that he said that it was an exhibition of the delightful truth that God has pardoned all iniquity, and is not imputing sins unto men: Depones, that the deponent understood Mr. Campbell to say, that the above manifestation of God's character was merely a manifestation of love: Depones, that the Clove which Mr. Campbell ascribed to the character of God was a holy love, but that the character of God as drawn by him seemed to the deponent to have excluded from it the idea of punitive justice. Interrogated, did the deponent understand Mr. Campbell to teach, that in excluding all idea D of punitive justice from the effects of the manifestation of God's holy love on alienated minds, that these should not be permitted to endure any consequence of their guilt or sinfulness? Depones, that the deponent understood him to affirm that all the transgressions committed under the legal economy E were forgiven, and that any suffering that was to be endured in the future world by sinners would be owing exclusively to their having rejected the gospel: Depones, that the deponent understood Mr. Campbell to say, that there could not be in the mind of a Christian, after the reception of the gospel, F any mourning for sin as the procuring cause of punishment, or any fears with regard to his future state: Depones, that the deponent understood Mr. Campbell as saying that the only sense of sin which ought to exist in the mind of any man, either before or after believing the gospel, was grief for G the sin of giving the lie to God, in not believing that he loved him, and wishing to fly from him as Adam did.

Re-interrogated for the defender, depones, that the deponent did not understand Mr. Campbell in that sermon, to say, that men ought to remain easy in their sins after believ

ing, but the tendency of the sermon, in the deponent's A opinion, was to make men easy about sin: Depones, that the deponent had no reason, from that sermon, to suppose that Mr. Campbell held the doctrine of universal salvation, further than that, in the view of the deponent, the doctrine of universal pardon necessarily leads to that of universal salva- B tion: Depones, that there was no specific statement with regard to the sufferings consequent on the rejection of the gospel, or their qualities, whether punitive or not; but he stated that men would be rejected of God on account of the single sin of unbelief: Depones, that in the opinion of C the deponent, what Mr. Campbell stated in that sermon, militated against the Scriptures, which say that men shall be judged for every evil deed done in the body. And all this is truth, as the deponent shall answer to God.

The Rev. WILLIAM CUNNINGHAM, Minister of the Gospel, Greenock, aged twenty-five, unmarried, being solemnly sworn, examined, and purged of malice and partial counsel, depones, that he is assistant minister of the new E parish of Greenock: Depones, that he heard Mr. Campbell preach in the month of April, 1830, in the Floating Chapel at Greenock: Depones, that he took notes of the sermon, and from these notes, now in his possession, he finds that Mr. Campbell said, "Before I can say to a man fear God and F give him glory, I must know that his condemnation is taken away that his sins are forgiven." "It is a fact at this moment of every person present that his sins are put away, and if I did not know this, I could not say to you, fear God and give him glory, because it would be an impossibility." G "I could not conceive any thing that I could ask of God which he has not told me that he has already given me."-"Christ's right to judge men is, that he has redeemed them. Judgment presupposes our forgiveness. It is as persons who

A have been forgiven that we shall be judged."

"We cannot repent and give God glory, unless we now have forgiveness." Interrogated for the defender, depones, that the only other occasion on which deponent ever heard Mr. Campbell preach was two or three years ago in Edinburgh: Depones, that B deponent took down the above notes, because the statements by Mr. Campbell, so taken down, were different from what he had been accustomed to hear on these points: Depones, that he took some other notes of the sermon, which are as follow" To fear God is to know and delight in him. To C give God glory is to praise him. The liberty wherewith. Christ makes his people free, is a liberty to fear God and give him glory." "This" (whereby the deponent understood Mr. Campbell to mean the provision for enabling men to fear God and give him glory, consisting in their sins being forD given) "is but a part of the truth. We must know and love God's character. To this, two things are necessary— first, that God shew himself-second, that I have eyes to see him. God shews himself in Christ." Mr. Campbell also said, "The future judgment and coming wrath is that E which makes God altogether lovely." Depones, that he does not recollect of Mr. Campbell speaking of responsibility of man, in the sense in which that word is commonly understood. Interrogated whether Mr. Campbell spoke of the responsibility under which man is placed by God's work in F Christ? Depones, in substance, perhaps, in stating the ground of the final judgment. Depones, that the deponent understood Mr. Campbell to make this the ground of the final judgment, that men had been pardoned, and had rejected the pardon Depones, that the general connexion of the two G first sentences quoted by the deponent from his notes, lay in the provision which God had made to enable man to fear him and give him glory: Depones, that Mr. Campbell's text was a passage in the fourteenth chapter of the book of Revelation, and the sixth and seventh verses. Re-interro